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Harvey Reese Associates is a Scam Do Not use
by who you » Sun Jan 16, 2011 7:50 pm
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I am letting anyone who has questions about Harvey Reese Associates/ Money4ideas. He is a RIPOFF. He talks all the things you want to hear on his site will make you think he is what he say. He is not, He does not try to present your inventions although he says he will. He will not have a phone conversation with you nor does he give you the correct information about himself, The phone numbers is a fax but he do not offer you to communicate with him via fax. The address that comes up is false He changed the street address. I Would not advise anyone to use this service. Here are emails back and forth between Harvey Reese and myself....
--- On Sun, 1/16/11,
Subject: Re: I recieved your report today
To: "Harvey Reese" <thereeseco@aol.com>
Date: Sunday, January 16, 2011, 4:00 PM
In fact Mr. Reese you do claim to try and get a licensing deal that is what you are selling, as an agent. You also claim not to be like the other companies that offer just an evaluation, And you do try and sell your poorly presented books.
I did pay you to put forth the effort and I really thank you for admitting that you did not, you are false advertising misleading info.
The services you provide and the services you offer are two different things. Now why don't you ask around.
Look Mr. Reese we can go back and forth with this but I will not, so you keep the money and thank you,
You seem to believe that what you are doing is OK, well I will Pray for you and your Scams ways and hope that your last submission be your last.
As many as I can reach and warn about you I will.
If I can sue you even just for principle I will.
I will report you to the BBB and any other services that marks you as a do not waste your MONEY!! There are too many people that work too hard for their money and don't need a person like you out there to rip us off.
At least with the other companies they you hear the bull because they don't lie about what they use your money for.
And selling you things are their jobs. But for you, you say you are better when in fact you are beneath them because you do the same but give the impression that you are a agent.
Because you are false advertising and scamming folks.
I will not fight with you back and forth Thur email, on this matter.
However I would like you to know and feel that you are a piece of poop and a thief. Keep the money I hope your buck stops NOW!!!
--- On Sun, 1/16/11, Harvey Reese <thereeseco@aol.com> wrote:
From: Harvey Reese <thereeseco@aol.com>
Subject: Re: I received your report today
Date: Sunday, January 16, 2011, 3:24 PM
What I said is absolutely true -- a product such as you describe COULD be made. That's not the problem. What you refuse to confront is the simple fact that you do not have an original, exciting new idea - what you're proposing has been done and redone. You keep dancing around that issue instead of facing it squarely. Instead you prefer calling me names because you don't like my printing and don't like my address and don't like my phone setup. This is not a fairyland where companies send out royalty checks just for the fun of it. You have to give them something of substance - something wonderful that they've never seen or heard of before - something with a great deal of commercial value that will give them a new sources of income. Your product doesn't do that and it therefore stands no chances of being licensed. Of course I made no effort to licensee it - why should I? That's not part of the deal. You paid me for my evaluation - nothing more. You didn't pay me to invest my time and money on a project that I have no confidence in. That's just common sense. Lots of my own products don't get licensed -- but I don't call those people crooks just because they didn't like my idea or call them scam artists because I don't like the way they part their hair. . It's just business. ideas come and go. None are "my baby" I move on, and I suggest you do as well.
Harvey Reese
Money4ideas.com
PS: Check out my newest book: The 12 Amazing Secrets if Millionaire Inventors. Lots of great information.
-----Original Message-----
To: Harvey Reese <harvey@money4ideas.com>
Sent: Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:02 pm
Subject: Re: I recieved your report today
Mr. Reese,
No in no way am I happy with the evaluation because you are very misleading.
1st of all you are not the man you say you are- nor do I believe that you can in fact do what you say you can do... Explain if you see the potential in this idea...
Your evaluation Reply mailed to me: YOUR WORDS
"let me say that you have intelligently presented the idea in your submission material and I there fore believe I have a clear understanding of this product concept in terms of its design and its function. Designing and Manufacturing a product approximating how you envision it would not present any difficulties- and I can see no reason why it wouldn't work, at least in a general way as you intended it to"
Yet you put NO EFFORT into presenting it. When I call you a crook and a scam you say I'm lashing out.
Your Reply to me:
"First - you're upset because we made no effort to seek a licensee for your idea."
My Reply to you:
No Mr. Reese I am not upset that you did not get me a licensing deal, But I am upset that you put FORTH NO EFFORT of getting a licensing deal, and frankly I don't think you ever do!
That's your RIPOFF I will take a wild guess to say you have a file cabinet full of good ideas that people have submitted, and because you do not have the CONTACTS that you claim to have you send all of us the same pages of your book and and call it a day.
You do not attempt!!!.
You don't even put any thought into what you send out.
So you see Mr. Reese, if you had the Contact as you say.
Where do you think we would be now?
The 1st week of the year was a Consumer Electronic Show were you there?
Mr. Reese I have heard that with age comes wisdom, and as a 79 yr old man I would think that you would be smart at least smarter than you are claiming.
Your Reply to My email:
Second, you're upset because our phone number and fax number is the same thing. It is. Why that should bother you is a mystery.
My Reply to you:
And the mystery for my wanted a phone number, is that it shows how much of a crook you really are. As well as the address that you have on your cards is wrong.
It should be: 616 10th st.
Not- 614 8th st.
Your Reply to me:
And why you should complain about the quality of our photocopies is even a bigger one. I suppose when you want to complain, one reason is as good as the next.
My Reply:
The mere quality of the paperwork you sent to me was garbage. The $189.00 I sent to you you should have at least purchased a color ink cartridge. The evaluation was tacky and gave me the feel that you are a joke, and a Scam. You did not provide me with constructive criticism on my idea you provided me with a general lecture of how to...
So you see Mr. Reese I can't afford to give away money, I will be needing that $189.00 back as soon as possible. Or I this will give me something to do legally.
I have presented the idea to some electronic companies Thur networking and have come to find out that you are not as well known as you say.
You have no integrity and you will be labeled as a ripoff. I would like you to refund my $189.00 Thank you!
--- On Sun, 1/16/11, Harvey Reese <thereeseco@aol.com> wrote:
From: Harvey Reese <thereeseco@aol.com>
Subject: Re: I recieved your report today
Date: Sunday, January 16, 2011, 11:41 AM
Hello:
I'm sorry you were unhappy with our evaluation of your idea -- but we feel the best benefit we can provide is to report the facts as we know them to be. For some inventors, their idea is "their baby" -- and anyone who speaks ill of it, just doesn't understand and is a crook and a charlatan. Others accept the facts staring them in the face and move on to create something better. You can take whichever road you wish.
First - you're upset because we made no effort to seek a licensee for your idea. That's not part of our agreement; and nowhere do we say it is. The fee is for our evaluation. period. There is no other promise. It's only at OUR discretion, if we think the idea is interesting enough, for us to invest our time and money to look for a licensee.
Second, you're upset because our phone number and fax number is the same thing. It is. Why that should bother you is a mystery. And why you should complain about the quality of our photocopies is even a bigger one. I suppose when you want to complain, one reason is as good as the next. Anything is better than listening to someone else's critical analysis of your idea.
And finally, yes, we are interested in ideas only -- but they have to be fresh, original and novel Your own idea clearly would not merit that description. There are SO MANY similar products, - and you have not provided us with a prototype or a whit of details to demonstrate how yours is so amazingly unique and better, that it would have been impossible to arrive at any other conclusion. I've been in this business a long time -- and when I tell you that I would not be successful in finding a licensee for your idea - you can believe it or chose not to. But I'm quite sure that if you gave the same details to a dozen people in the business, they'll tell you the same thing. If you're not willing to accept these facts, but instead simply want to lash out and insult anyone who doesn't find the idea marvelous, that's up to you. You paid us to evaluate your idea, which we did - fully,honestly and professionally. Someday I hope you'll reflect and realize that we gave you the truth - which is worth a lot more than the fee we charge.
Sincerely, Harvey Reese
Money4ideas.com
PS: Check out my newest book: The 12 Amazing Secrets if Millionaire Inventors. Lots of great information.
--- On Sun, 1/16/11,
Subject: Re: I recieved your report today
To: "Harvey Reese" <thereeseco@aol.com>
Date: Sunday, January 16, 2011, 4:00 PM
In fact Mr. Reese you do claim to try and get a licensing deal that is what you are selling, as an agent. You also claim not to be like the other companies that offer just an evaluation, And you do try and sell your poorly presented books.
I did pay you to put forth the effort and I really thank you for admitting that you did not, you are false advertising misleading info.
The services you provide and the services you offer are two different things. Now why don't you ask around.
Look Mr. Reese we can go back and forth with this but I will not, so you keep the money and thank you,
You seem to believe that what you are doing is OK, well I will Pray for you and your Scams ways and hope that your last submission be your last.
As many as I can reach and warn about you I will.
If I can sue you even just for principle I will.
I will report you to the BBB and any other services that marks you as a do not waste your MONEY!! There are too many people that work too hard for their money and don't need a person like you out there to rip us off.
At least with the other companies they you hear the bull because they don't lie about what they use your money for.
And selling you things are their jobs. But for you, you say you are better when in fact you are beneath them because you do the same but give the impression that you are a agent.
Because you are false advertising and scamming folks.
I will not fight with you back and forth Thur email, on this matter.
However I would like you to know and feel that you are a piece of poop and a thief. Keep the money I hope your buck stops NOW!!!
--- On Sun, 1/16/11, Harvey Reese <thereeseco@aol.com> wrote:
From: Harvey Reese <thereeseco@aol.com>
Subject: Re: I received your report today
Date: Sunday, January 16, 2011, 3:24 PM
What I said is absolutely true -- a product such as you describe COULD be made. That's not the problem. What you refuse to confront is the simple fact that you do not have an original, exciting new idea - what you're proposing has been done and redone. You keep dancing around that issue instead of facing it squarely. Instead you prefer calling me names because you don't like my printing and don't like my address and don't like my phone setup. This is not a fairyland where companies send out royalty checks just for the fun of it. You have to give them something of substance - something wonderful that they've never seen or heard of before - something with a great deal of commercial value that will give them a new sources of income. Your product doesn't do that and it therefore stands no chances of being licensed. Of course I made no effort to licensee it - why should I? That's not part of the deal. You paid me for my evaluation - nothing more. You didn't pay me to invest my time and money on a project that I have no confidence in. That's just common sense. Lots of my own products don't get licensed -- but I don't call those people crooks just because they didn't like my idea or call them scam artists because I don't like the way they part their hair. . It's just business. ideas come and go. None are "my baby" I move on, and I suggest you do as well.
Harvey Reese
Money4ideas.com
PS: Check out my newest book: The 12 Amazing Secrets if Millionaire Inventors. Lots of great information.
-----Original Message-----
To: Harvey Reese <harvey@money4ideas.com>
Sent: Sun, Jan 16, 2011 3:02 pm
Subject: Re: I recieved your report today
Mr. Reese,
No in no way am I happy with the evaluation because you are very misleading.
1st of all you are not the man you say you are- nor do I believe that you can in fact do what you say you can do... Explain if you see the potential in this idea...
Your evaluation Reply mailed to me: YOUR WORDS
"let me say that you have intelligently presented the idea in your submission material and I there fore believe I have a clear understanding of this product concept in terms of its design and its function. Designing and Manufacturing a product approximating how you envision it would not present any difficulties- and I can see no reason why it wouldn't work, at least in a general way as you intended it to"
Yet you put NO EFFORT into presenting it. When I call you a crook and a scam you say I'm lashing out.
Your Reply to me:
"First - you're upset because we made no effort to seek a licensee for your idea."
My Reply to you:
No Mr. Reese I am not upset that you did not get me a licensing deal, But I am upset that you put FORTH NO EFFORT of getting a licensing deal, and frankly I don't think you ever do!
That's your RIPOFF I will take a wild guess to say you have a file cabinet full of good ideas that people have submitted, and because you do not have the CONTACTS that you claim to have you send all of us the same pages of your book and and call it a day.
You do not attempt!!!.
You don't even put any thought into what you send out.
So you see Mr. Reese, if you had the Contact as you say.
Where do you think we would be now?
The 1st week of the year was a Consumer Electronic Show were you there?
Mr. Reese I have heard that with age comes wisdom, and as a 79 yr old man I would think that you would be smart at least smarter than you are claiming.
Your Reply to My email:
Second, you're upset because our phone number and fax number is the same thing. It is. Why that should bother you is a mystery.
My Reply to you:
And the mystery for my wanted a phone number, is that it shows how much of a crook you really are. As well as the address that you have on your cards is wrong.
It should be: 616 10th st.
Not- 614 8th st.
Your Reply to me:
And why you should complain about the quality of our photocopies is even a bigger one. I suppose when you want to complain, one reason is as good as the next.
My Reply:
The mere quality of the paperwork you sent to me was garbage. The $189.00 I sent to you you should have at least purchased a color ink cartridge. The evaluation was tacky and gave me the feel that you are a joke, and a Scam. You did not provide me with constructive criticism on my idea you provided me with a general lecture of how to...
So you see Mr. Reese I can't afford to give away money, I will be needing that $189.00 back as soon as possible. Or I this will give me something to do legally.
I have presented the idea to some electronic companies Thur networking and have come to find out that you are not as well known as you say.
You have no integrity and you will be labeled as a ripoff. I would like you to refund my $189.00 Thank you!
--- On Sun, 1/16/11, Harvey Reese <thereeseco@aol.com> wrote:
From: Harvey Reese <thereeseco@aol.com>
Subject: Re: I recieved your report today
Date: Sunday, January 16, 2011, 11:41 AM
Hello:
I'm sorry you were unhappy with our evaluation of your idea -- but we feel the best benefit we can provide is to report the facts as we know them to be. For some inventors, their idea is "their baby" -- and anyone who speaks ill of it, just doesn't understand and is a crook and a charlatan. Others accept the facts staring them in the face and move on to create something better. You can take whichever road you wish.
First - you're upset because we made no effort to seek a licensee for your idea. That's not part of our agreement; and nowhere do we say it is. The fee is for our evaluation. period. There is no other promise. It's only at OUR discretion, if we think the idea is interesting enough, for us to invest our time and money to look for a licensee.
Second, you're upset because our phone number and fax number is the same thing. It is. Why that should bother you is a mystery. And why you should complain about the quality of our photocopies is even a bigger one. I suppose when you want to complain, one reason is as good as the next. Anything is better than listening to someone else's critical analysis of your idea.
And finally, yes, we are interested in ideas only -- but they have to be fresh, original and novel Your own idea clearly would not merit that description. There are SO MANY similar products, - and you have not provided us with a prototype or a whit of details to demonstrate how yours is so amazingly unique and better, that it would have been impossible to arrive at any other conclusion. I've been in this business a long time -- and when I tell you that I would not be successful in finding a licensee for your idea - you can believe it or chose not to. But I'm quite sure that if you gave the same details to a dozen people in the business, they'll tell you the same thing. If you're not willing to accept these facts, but instead simply want to lash out and insult anyone who doesn't find the idea marvelous, that's up to you. You paid us to evaluate your idea, which we did - fully,honestly and professionally. Someday I hope you'll reflect and realize that we gave you the truth - which is worth a lot more than the fee we charge.
Sincerely, Harvey Reese
Money4ideas.com
PS: Check out my newest book: The 12 Amazing Secrets if Millionaire Inventors. Lots of great information.
Re: Harvey Reese Associates is a Scam Do Not use
by artbum » Fri Oct 14, 2011 2:59 pm
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I know this is an old post (jan 11) but responding anyway.
From all of the emails and events you listed here, and my own dealing with Mr. Harvey Reese, I can tell you are seeing the whole thing through your own eyes only. You may benefit from someone else's unbiased view as we all may from time to time.
All of his responses on here seem reasonable, professional and honest. He did not put any effort because he did an evaluation and concluded that in his opinion your idea wouldn't sell and therefore isn't worth the effort (time is money, not to mention travel expenses, etc)
In one of your emails you say:
Your Reply to me:
"First - you're upset because we made no effort to seek a licensee for your idea."
My Reply to you:
No Mr. Reese I am not upset that you did not get me a licensing deal, But I am upset that you put FORTH NO EFFORT of getting a licensing deal, and frankly I don't think you ever do!
^ He clearly agreed with you that you are upset that he put NO EFFORT into licensing it. In your reply you tell him, "No Mr. Reese I am not upset that you did not get me a licensing deal" < haha he didn't SAY that! He did NOT accuse you of being upset about "not getting a deal"—he said you're upset cause he put no effort. Which is exactly what you said too!
You paid him to evaluate it and he did, except you ONLY wanted to hear that your baby was GOLD. Well sometimes our ideas aren't. I was so gung-ho about an idea for web design til I told my wife and she gunned it down in realistic terms. It was hard to swallow, but I can see that she had a point. No problem! Back to the drawing board, right??
AND, my experience with Mr Reese was good albeit short lived. I paid for his evaluation and sent him my stuff. He replied saying he does not know that area of retail and sent me back my money. I made a post a while back saying this. I replied asking him to keep my $ and if he can just do some research and I'll help him with the info, but he declined. But the point is; he gave me back my money! He did not keep it and tell me my idea is gold, all I had to do is pay for his next service so he can work with it, etc. Seems like other companies actually do that. Ever heard this mentioned on here: "a submission company never met an idea they didn't like"
From all of the emails and events you listed here, and my own dealing with Mr. Harvey Reese, I can tell you are seeing the whole thing through your own eyes only. You may benefit from someone else's unbiased view as we all may from time to time.
All of his responses on here seem reasonable, professional and honest. He did not put any effort because he did an evaluation and concluded that in his opinion your idea wouldn't sell and therefore isn't worth the effort (time is money, not to mention travel expenses, etc)
In one of your emails you say:
Your Reply to me:
"First - you're upset because we made no effort to seek a licensee for your idea."
My Reply to you:
No Mr. Reese I am not upset that you did not get me a licensing deal, But I am upset that you put FORTH NO EFFORT of getting a licensing deal, and frankly I don't think you ever do!
^ He clearly agreed with you that you are upset that he put NO EFFORT into licensing it. In your reply you tell him, "No Mr. Reese I am not upset that you did not get me a licensing deal" < haha he didn't SAY that! He did NOT accuse you of being upset about "not getting a deal"—he said you're upset cause he put no effort. Which is exactly what you said too!
You paid him to evaluate it and he did, except you ONLY wanted to hear that your baby was GOLD. Well sometimes our ideas aren't. I was so gung-ho about an idea for web design til I told my wife and she gunned it down in realistic terms. It was hard to swallow, but I can see that she had a point. No problem! Back to the drawing board, right??
AND, my experience with Mr Reese was good albeit short lived. I paid for his evaluation and sent him my stuff. He replied saying he does not know that area of retail and sent me back my money. I made a post a while back saying this. I replied asking him to keep my $ and if he can just do some research and I'll help him with the info, but he declined. But the point is; he gave me back my money! He did not keep it and tell me my idea is gold, all I had to do is pay for his next service so he can work with it, etc. Seems like other companies actually do that. Ever heard this mentioned on here: "a submission company never met an idea they didn't like"
Re: Harvey Reese Associates is a Scam Do Not use
by jackbnimble56 » Fri Oct 14, 2011 4:22 pm
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I paid Harvey Reese for an evaluation of my product that's EXACTLY what he did. I never expected him to do anything more and frankly, I don't understand why you did. As far as I'm concerned the man is NOT a scam artist because he did exactly what I paid him to do. He didn't particularly like my product, but I don't hold that against him, nor should you...
Jack
Jack
Nimble Jack Enterprises - Innovative Solutions to Everyday Problems
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To purchase the Magic Toob product visit: http://www.magictoob.com/
Re: Harvey Reese Associates is a Scam Do Not use
by Roger Brown » Sat Oct 15, 2011 5:21 am
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Jack, you hit the nail on the head. A lot of Inventors want their product to be evaluated as long as the evaluation goes the way they want. Which is, they want to hear everyone will love their idea and they will make millions from it. Anything less than that and the person doing the evaluation is an idiot and wouldn't know a good product if they saw one.
If you give them what they want, you are the smartest person on the planet and great to work with. If you give them your honest opinion and it has anything negative in it, such as their product already exists and is on the market, then you don't know what you are doing.
I have had Inventors send me products to evaluate and they tell me they have searched everywhere and nothing exists like thier product. So when I send them links to the products that already exist just like their idea and are better than the Inventors idea and they still insist theirs is different and will still sell.
There is not much you can do with that person.
If you give them what they want, you are the smartest person on the planet and great to work with. If you give them your honest opinion and it has anything negative in it, such as their product already exists and is on the market, then you don't know what you are doing.
I have had Inventors send me products to evaluate and they tell me they have searched everywhere and nothing exists like thier product. So when I send them links to the products that already exist just like their idea and are better than the Inventors idea and they still insist theirs is different and will still sell.
There is not much you can do with that person.
Come visit my sites at http://www.RogerBrown.net
or http://www.looking2license.com
I have gotten 9 products licensed spending less than $100 on each, you can too.
or http://www.looking2license.com
I have gotten 9 products licensed spending less than $100 on each, you can too.
Re: Harvey Reese Associates is a Scam Do Not use
by jackbnimble56 » Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:03 am
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Roger
Harvey actually says it better than I ever could himself:
http://www.money4ideas.com/article9b.html
Jack
Harvey actually says it better than I ever could himself:
http://www.money4ideas.com/article9b.html
Jack
Nimble Jack Enterprises - Innovative Solutions to Everyday Problems
To purchase the Magic Toob product visit: http://www.magictoob.com/
To purchase the Magic Toob product visit: http://www.magictoob.com/
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