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by Roger Brown » Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:14 pm
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Google patent search is about 8 months behind the U.S. patent because they have to wait for them to scan in the patent and make it available for Google to download and put in their search engine. they are trying to get a better system together.
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by Archeryrob » Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:39 am
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Wow, I got an idea. You could ad somethig like this http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?osti_id=6788932 to the power system and the solder would charge the battery while performing his tasks. Then the size of the battery could be smaller as he generate current while on duty.
by Scrupulous » Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:11 pm
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Archeryrob, I like your thinking.
I'm not 100% sure, but I believe the power has to be self sustainable, meaning that it can't depend on forces external to it, for generating the current.
There may be a way to interpret the rules like what you're saying. Then, they would need to provide specs on what the course looks like, and all that good stuff.
The way it looks right now, no known technology can meet their existing requirements.
I'm not 100% sure, but I believe the power has to be self sustainable, meaning that it can't depend on forces external to it, for generating the current.
There may be a way to interpret the rules like what you're saying. Then, they would need to provide specs on what the course looks like, and all that good stuff.
The way it looks right now, no known technology can meet their existing requirements.
by Archeryrob » Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:32 am
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All you need is a magnet that slides through a tube. Then you need two tubes. One on a vertical axis and one on a horizontal axis. Then you have coils wrapped atound the tubes. Just like the flash lights that you shake. The more the soldier moves the move electric energy he generates. No matter which direction he moves he generates more power.
Of course it would have to be tested for the amount of electricity it could generate. Several redesigns on the size of the magnet to get the most movement and generate enough power and the number of wraps of wire needed.
I'd get started on it now but I got to get another invention of the ground and make money with that.
So some one run with this and make some money and then you can be my angel investor.
Of course it would have to be tested for the amount of electricity it could generate. Several redesigns on the size of the magnet to get the most movement and generate enough power and the number of wraps of wire needed.
I'd get started on it now but I got to get another invention of the ground and make money with that.
So some one run with this and make some money and then you can be my angel investor.
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by Roger Brown » Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:40 am
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Am I correct that you are using the same method used in transformers to step up or step down the voltage depending on the amount of windings each tube would have? You are using magnetic induction to generate a magnet field to transfer the energy from one to the other, right?
It has been a while since I had electrical theory. So I want to make sure I am understanding your concept.
It has been a while since I had electrical theory. So I want to make sure I am understanding your concept.
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by Scrupulous » Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:43 am
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It's kinda the same idea.
The sliding magnet (a changing magnetic field) produces an electric current in the nearby wire [coil].
The sliding magnet (a changing magnetic field) produces an electric current in the nearby wire [coil].
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by Roger Brown » Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:51 am
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The same principle is used on the flashlight you shake to charge the light for use.
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by Archeryrob » Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:41 am
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Yes that's it, Roger, You can run with it and get Scrup to file the PPa or Utility PA. Then you can be my Angel after you win the cash. 
If you wanted I could help. I am not an engineer but basic electrical therory is not that hard. more windings = more power. You can chage voltage through transformer but the electric gate type voltage regulators work better for smaller currents and that is all you're going to get from the thing. Look at the patent drawings for the wave generator, if they are there. It should be the same as a trickle charger or very similar. The device runs directly off the battery and the trickle charger recharges, or partially recharges, the batteries. This extends the battery charge life and then you can reduce the size of the battery and thereby reducing the weight and win the contest.
How much? Well, that's is where the prototyping starts.
If you wanted I could help. I am not an engineer but basic electrical therory is not that hard. more windings = more power. You can chage voltage through transformer but the electric gate type voltage regulators work better for smaller currents and that is all you're going to get from the thing. Look at the patent drawings for the wave generator, if they are there. It should be the same as a trickle charger or very similar. The device runs directly off the battery and the trickle charger recharges, or partially recharges, the batteries. This extends the battery charge life and then you can reduce the size of the battery and thereby reducing the weight and win the contest.
How much? Well, that's is where the prototyping starts.
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by Archeryrob » Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:47 am
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OMG, that's funny. I just looked at the patent draws. Great minds must think a like.
BUT, I got IMPROVEMENT to the original UPA.
BUT, I got IMPROVEMENT to the original UPA.
by Scrupulous » Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:36 am
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A-rob, you get an A for effort though. 
And that would be the idea...to patent something that gets entered into the competition, so that we'd be covered either way.
I suppose I've never come right out and said it but, I'd be willing to write the patent application for a good team project.
(We've talked about a design group here. It would probably be the most efficient way for any group of developers to filter ideas, and optimize the right ones quickly.)
And that would be the idea...to patent something that gets entered into the competition, so that we'd be covered either way.
I suppose I've never come right out and said it but, I'd be willing to write the patent application for a good team project.
(We've talked about a design group here. It would probably be the most efficient way for any group of developers to filter ideas, and optimize the right ones quickly.)
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