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Have OVER 15 Inventions Need Help With
by bryce3000 » Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:28 pm
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Well just to tell everyone a little about me and how I have so many ideas. I started when I was ten years old writing ideas down, and thinking of new methods to improve a device. I used to have a ton but over the years people have beat me to the punch due to lack of finacing. As of this date I would be willing to say that I have some ideas that would be very successful as long as hard work and finacing is put behind it.
One example of a device as far as economic perspective. 85% of the worlds population uses them and they cost about $300. Therefore it has the potential of creating a good bit of income.
Well I have some money but not near enough to see an idea all the way through. Therefore I am seeking some assistance. As I said before the ideas range from various areas. Let me get to the point on what I am looking for.
1) No invention companies because I do not trust them.
2) Someone that has finacial backing.
3) Prefer someone that has dealt with something like this before but it is not needed.
3) Someone that is willing to sign a NDA
4) Someone that is willing to talk on the phone and one day meet in person.
All of these are non negotiable.
If you are interested in this opportunity then please let me know.
Bryce Davis
One example of a device as far as economic perspective. 85% of the worlds population uses them and they cost about $300. Therefore it has the potential of creating a good bit of income.
Well I have some money but not near enough to see an idea all the way through. Therefore I am seeking some assistance. As I said before the ideas range from various areas. Let me get to the point on what I am looking for.
1) No invention companies because I do not trust them.
2) Someone that has finacial backing.
3) Prefer someone that has dealt with something like this before but it is not needed.
3) Someone that is willing to sign a NDA
4) Someone that is willing to talk on the phone and one day meet in person.
All of these are non negotiable.
If you are interested in this opportunity then please let me know.
Bryce Davis
Re: Have OVER 15 Inventions Need Help With
by makeworldbetter » Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:27 am
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bryce3000 wrote: As of this date I would be willing to say that I have some ideas that would be very successful as long as hard work and finacing is put behind it.
In most cases, your own hard work and financing behinds it.
I hope I can help. First let's find out what's a novel invention and what's not already. (are they patentable) Then we should find out are there any market value, a second opinion is already helpful. Then you need to market them.
I would sign NDA with you, if you are interesting, PM me.
You can look at web site at makeworldbetter.com
It takes money to make money with no guarantees
by Mr Invention » Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:27 am
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After looking for money for my first idea 40 years ago and finding out that no one or no company will lend money on ideas, I sold my house, moved my family into an apartment and commenced to lose $10,000 on stupid mistakes. And I thought I was pretty sharpe when it came to business and money because I was a vice president of a bank at the time. Fast forwarding to 40 years later, I and my clients do in fact get an occassionaly idea to market by a tried and true method that I have devised over the last 60 years of business experience. If anyone should happen to read this post I would like to save you a lot of time and grief by tellling you there is NO or Very Little selling or licensing of ideas and even less investors of ideas and spending you little bit of money on a patent in hopes of selling the patent is not going to happen (The PTO is pumping out 1000 patents a day which mean once again, the paper shufflers are the only people making any money off of ideas). Having said all of the above it you want to try to get an idea to market, contact me brumar53@aol.com and I will advise you. As to one post I saw here, I actually had an elderly gentlement contact me on an annual basis to see if I could find him an investor for any of this 65 ideas but to no avail. He just resently died at the age of 70 no having got one of this ideas to market.
by Michelle » Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:27 pm
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Mr Invention:
You are very new to the site so excuse me if I seem a bit paranoid and not appreciative of your generous offer to help inventors.
While we appreciate the advice you are offering, I would like to ask you to not offer your services directly.
This is not an advertising forum, it is a free help and support forum.
You are welcome to add your website and info on you to your signature at the bottom of your postings but please, can you not suggest to people to write to you for advice or services.
I hope you can understand that we really want to keep this a "safe" place for inventors. If they decide they like your advice and want to write to you of their own free will, that is fine but I do want anyone on this site regularly offering "write to me and I will help you".
I understand that much of this stuff is confidential and people are reluctant to share details on the site but please just do your best to offer advice in a general way that our readers can generally benefit from without having to have them write to you as it feels like a solicitation for service.
I am sure you are doing this to be helpful but I can't tell from anonymous emails those who are being truly helpful and those who are trying to take advantage of inventors....so therefor we have to have our site policies.
I hope you can understand what we are trying to do here and be supportive of it.
Thanks,
Michelle
You are very new to the site so excuse me if I seem a bit paranoid and not appreciative of your generous offer to help inventors.
While we appreciate the advice you are offering, I would like to ask you to not offer your services directly.
This is not an advertising forum, it is a free help and support forum.
You are welcome to add your website and info on you to your signature at the bottom of your postings but please, can you not suggest to people to write to you for advice or services.
I hope you can understand that we really want to keep this a "safe" place for inventors. If they decide they like your advice and want to write to you of their own free will, that is fine but I do want anyone on this site regularly offering "write to me and I will help you".
I understand that much of this stuff is confidential and people are reluctant to share details on the site but please just do your best to offer advice in a general way that our readers can generally benefit from without having to have them write to you as it feels like a solicitation for service.
I am sure you are doing this to be helpful but I can't tell from anonymous emails those who are being truly helpful and those who are trying to take advantage of inventors....so therefor we have to have our site policies.
I hope you can understand what we are trying to do here and be supportive of it.
Thanks,
Michelle
by Work2XL » Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:56 pm
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Mr. Invention,
I have read many of your posts (unless I am confusing you with someone else relatively new here) and while I agree that it is tough for inventors, your posts seem to only highlight the doom and gloom. Also a recurring theme seems to be that 40 years ago you couldn't do this or that. ALOT has changed since then. Up until recently people had money thrown at them from every direction. There is also ALOT of venture capitol and angel capitol out there now compared to 40 years ago.
I am not trying to be overly critical, just trying to make the distinction that it is now longer a straight line comparison.
Again, I will admit most people are not going to get outside funding, but the right ideas can make it. If your idea is good enough and you are willing to do the leg work, money can be found. If it can't, then maybe it is time to re-evaluate your project.
The most important tool for inventors is information from due diligence. There is a ton of advice available now that was not accessible 40 years ago.
The biggest obstacle I see in people is their inability to get out of their own way. They make excuses, procrastinate, and sabotage themselves until they can rationalize talking themselves out of doing something.
Most just don't realize they are doing it. If this is you, then it is most likely for the best. They probably don't have the fortitude to finish what they start.
Randy
I have read many of your posts (unless I am confusing you with someone else relatively new here) and while I agree that it is tough for inventors, your posts seem to only highlight the doom and gloom. Also a recurring theme seems to be that 40 years ago you couldn't do this or that. ALOT has changed since then. Up until recently people had money thrown at them from every direction. There is also ALOT of venture capitol and angel capitol out there now compared to 40 years ago.
I am not trying to be overly critical, just trying to make the distinction that it is now longer a straight line comparison.
Again, I will admit most people are not going to get outside funding, but the right ideas can make it. If your idea is good enough and you are willing to do the leg work, money can be found. If it can't, then maybe it is time to re-evaluate your project.
The most important tool for inventors is information from due diligence. There is a ton of advice available now that was not accessible 40 years ago.
The biggest obstacle I see in people is their inability to get out of their own way. They make excuses, procrastinate, and sabotage themselves until they can rationalize talking themselves out of doing something.
Most just don't realize they are doing it. If this is you, then it is most likely for the best. They probably don't have the fortitude to finish what they start.
Randy
New to this forum but not new to business
by Mr Invention » Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:11 am
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I must not have explained myself clearly as to my first trying to get my product to market 40 years ago. I did not try once and only once but have been involved in the idea business for 40 continuous years and unfortunatley when it comes to finding investors for ideas, nothing has changed over that period of time. I am familiar with all types of loans (I was a loan officer at one time) and the idea loan is really hard to find and in fact I am still waiting for just one person to contact me with verifiable information indicating that they did in fact find a lending institution that lent them money for their idea. Once again I base all of my opinions on having been in business for 60 years which entails both the corporate world and private sector. I am here to hopefully learn things that I am not aware of. If I could only find a few or even one person that sold his or her idea or found financing (Other than family and friends) for his or her idea, that would put me in a postion to forward that information to people that contact me with ideas but no money thus give them hope. Unfortunately that has not happened up to this point but maybe this forum will bring forth such a person. As I have probably explained to hundreds of thousands of people that have contacted me with their ideas over these many year, "Ideas are 1% inspiration and it takes 99% perspiration to give the idea a chance of succeeding" I have taken over 100 ideas from their inspirational stage through the very laborious stages to market and it is not an easy task with no guarantee of success. That is why most people want to sell their idea and let the other people take all of the risk. As for the sensitive readers of my posts to this forum, my invlovement with the idea world has not been all tales of woe, and doom and gloom. I have actually had several of my own ideas make money along with some of my clients ideas. The main thing is being in the game and not merely standing on the sidelines watching the parade go by. You will fully understand that when you get to be in your 60's, 70's and 80's,
by DSlackman » Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:05 am
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What makes for a successful inventor?
99% inspiration, 99% perspiration, 1% tactfulness, and 10% not good with numbers
D
Inventors Create the Future
http://www.tenbytech.com
99% inspiration, 99% perspiration, 1% tactfulness, and 10% not good with numbers
D
Inventors Create the Future
http://www.tenbytech.com
Re: New to this forum but not new to business
by makeworldbetter » Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:59 pm
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Mr Invention wrote: That is why most people want to sell their idea and let the other people take all of the risk.
I will argue on this one.
The fact is most inventors are not equipped to do everything needed for a successful business, with few exceptions, not including myself.One of my friends honestly told me that I am good about generating ideas yet not very good about running business. I took that straightly to my heart.
In order to convert an idea to business, you have to do many things right. One mistake you put your great idea into failure. Say if I have a good idea about luggage case, should I contact Samsonite? Or should I start a company to do it on my own. Samsonite is in this business for long long time, they have facilities to build these suitcases and I don’t. The have marketing channel, source of supply, brand name, international recognition and finance backup which and I don’t have any of these. It becomes a obvious favorite choice to submit my idea to them, if they accept.
Of course if you are Bill Gates type, then go ahead and start your Microsoft and excuse me for not being at your level. Yet I believe my words are true for most of inventors.
The realities of the idea business
by Mr Invention » Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:40 pm
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makeworldbetter, I have looked at all of your web page material and what you have done up to this point and you have done far more that the hundreds of thousands of people with ideas that have contacted me over the years. I would like to straighten out a misconception about the Bill Gates of the world and the Donald Trumps of the world. They got to where they are now because of old money (Inheritance and Family Financing). If you give me $4,000,000.00, I will show you how to be successful in business and more importantly take that money and leverage it. The majority of people that I deal with on a lot of business levels that in fact have any money at all, usually only have from $5000.00 to $25,000.00 to go into business and if you don't know how to budget that money you will surely fail. I have dealt with people (Including myself) that have lost from $10,000.00 to $1,000,000.00 on their ideas because they didn't have any or enought experience. Just today I dealt with some injection mold people that wanted to charge me $80,000.00 for tooling up but because I have dealt with thousands of suppliers all over the world for years, I was able to get the exact injection mold tooled up for $20,000.00 thus saving $60,000.00. All of the savings on individual components for a finished product add up and in some cases I have to have as many as 120 component suppliers of which 40 are domestic suppliers and 80 are foreign suppliers. All I try to accomplish with my and my cleints ideas is to get 1/10th of 1% domestic market share which normally translates into a substantial return on investment.
Re: New to this forum but not new to business
by Toymaker » Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:17 am
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Mr Invention wrote:If I could only find a few or even one person that sold his or her idea
I don't understand this? I have sold over 40 ideas to companies, I cannot be the only one? There are others like Roger Brown etc who have been successful, so it can be done, it just needs perseverence.
Toymaker
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