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by Envizion » Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:01 am
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Whamzam & Wing Man -
My name is Patrice, you know Roger's name and Everyday Edisons and Edison Nation are who they say they are.
Who are you???
You say that Roger is sneaky and a snake but you guys use fictitious names and won't show any of the wonderful products that you have brought to market...why? What do you have to hide?
Calling me a stalker is a poor defense tactic and you are avoiding the question.
The real reason you won't reveal yourself of your so called inventions is because you don't want everyone to pass judgement or criticise you. But it's perfectly ok for you to point fingers at everybody else right?
That's if you do infact have any inventions at all. Plus, using a fictitious name gives you the ability to play dirty without harm to your reputation right?
I think I'm going to call you slim shady and slim shady junior from now on.
How can anyone believe anything you say when you hide behind fictitious names and don't have any proof of product development at all?
My name is Patrice, you know Roger's name and Everyday Edisons and Edison Nation are who they say they are.
Who are you???
You say that Roger is sneaky and a snake but you guys use fictitious names and won't show any of the wonderful products that you have brought to market...why? What do you have to hide?
Calling me a stalker is a poor defense tactic and you are avoiding the question.
The real reason you won't reveal yourself of your so called inventions is because you don't want everyone to pass judgement or criticise you. But it's perfectly ok for you to point fingers at everybody else right?
That's if you do infact have any inventions at all. Plus, using a fictitious name gives you the ability to play dirty without harm to your reputation right?
I think I'm going to call you slim shady and slim shady junior from now on.
How can anyone believe anything you say when you hide behind fictitious names and don't have any proof of product development at all?
by Whamzam » Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:06 am
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"How can anyone believe anything you say when you hide behind fictitious names and don't have any proof of product development at all?"
Because we are not as ignorant as you. And it is obvious because you don't debate any points, thus proving you don't have knowledge of them. That's why you keep bringing up the only 2 offenses that you think are the best attacking methods:
1. Why you not start this thread at EN
2. Why can't I find out who you are
You've only brought these same 2 points up over and over again. It's all you got. You are not contributing anything to a debate at all.
Yes I do believe that with your aggressive personality, temper, and dedication devotion to pry a hatefuly incited integer of only 2 non-irrelevant points, that you must be an extremely dangerous stalker.
And you should be careful, if something should happen to me or Boom Man, I can only imagine who a prime suspect will be.
Because we are not as ignorant as you. And it is obvious because you don't debate any points, thus proving you don't have knowledge of them. That's why you keep bringing up the only 2 offenses that you think are the best attacking methods:
1. Why you not start this thread at EN
2. Why can't I find out who you are
You've only brought these same 2 points up over and over again. It's all you got. You are not contributing anything to a debate at all.
Yes I do believe that with your aggressive personality, temper, and dedication devotion to pry a hatefuly incited integer of only 2 non-irrelevant points, that you must be an extremely dangerous stalker.
And you should be careful, if something should happen to me or Boom Man, I can only imagine who a prime suspect will be.
by Envizion » Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:26 am
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Haha! LMAO!
You are a true coward! How funny is that.
Don't flatter yourself Whazman. I don't know anything about you. What would be my motive? No one wants anything to do with you. Again, it's a poor defense tactic.
I think you dont' like the questions I'm asking you so you are diverting the conversation back to your EE/EN challenge where you want it to be. If you've read my earlier posts, I was bringing up points against your allegations -
I told you that there were no alliances and that the Survivor thing was just for fun.
I told you that I feel that part of the reason why their forum is so active and that they have a huge following is because their staff takes the time to address inventor's questions on their forum. People appreciate that their concerns are being addressed and that is a good thing. There is open communcation which is a formula for success. Keeping people in the dark is not good business.
I think bringing up the fact that they have a young staff doesn't prove anything and that you are grasping at straws. Younger employees bring new blood to a company that are usually energetic and more current with technology and current events, etc.
and...
You are a true coward! How funny is that.
Don't flatter yourself Whazman. I don't know anything about you. What would be my motive? No one wants anything to do with you. Again, it's a poor defense tactic.
I think you dont' like the questions I'm asking you so you are diverting the conversation back to your EE/EN challenge where you want it to be. If you've read my earlier posts, I was bringing up points against your allegations -
I told you that there were no alliances and that the Survivor thing was just for fun.
I told you that I feel that part of the reason why their forum is so active and that they have a huge following is because their staff takes the time to address inventor's questions on their forum. People appreciate that their concerns are being addressed and that is a good thing. There is open communcation which is a formula for success. Keeping people in the dark is not good business.
I think bringing up the fact that they have a young staff doesn't prove anything and that you are grasping at straws. Younger employees bring new blood to a company that are usually energetic and more current with technology and current events, etc.
and...
by Envizion » Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:36 am
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.... you are speculating that the only reason they have the actual inventor present their invention is because of looks for TV but you have dodged the fact that it is probably for protection purposes for the inventor. Why would a company want to hear a pitch about a product that isn't coming from the company selling the product? Plus, if they were judging by looks, wouldn't all the winners model looking people? They look like average looking people to me.
All of your arguments are not fact based but are speculation that you cannot prove.
I think Roger Brown is an honest man with nothing to hide and he has made some very fine products. It makes me mad that you would bash Roger and his inventions only because you felt that you were losing in a debate. That is not fair play. He cannot bash you back because you hide yourself and your products. It's just not right.
All of your arguments are not fact based but are speculation that you cannot prove.
I think Roger Brown is an honest man with nothing to hide and he has made some very fine products. It makes me mad that you would bash Roger and his inventions only because you felt that you were losing in a debate. That is not fair play. He cannot bash you back because you hide yourself and your products. It's just not right.
by Whamzam » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:06 pm
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I was bringing up points against your allegations -
I told you that there were no alliances
Really? Well that is in direct conflict with what your master said (who you admitted was in the know and on the staff at EN).
DCinNC wrote:
Also Everyday Edisons is partnered with the United States Patent and Trademark Office
and
.....I doubt they would align with an un-legit company.
So that proves that you are ignorant about the issues.
Patrice wrote:
"Keeping people in the dark is not good business."
Well then why do you only want all people to only have positive comments about EN over here at InventorSpot? All the other threads here on the forums are generally positive about EN. I start one thread that questions EN, so that others can get another perspective besides from what the staff and members have to say, and some people like you get red anger boiling about it.
You get blood boiling angry over anything at all potentially negative about EN, and that proves to me that you are a suck-up. You came over here just to fight on this thread; Your first 8 posts were all centered around attacking me. You claim that you had another sign-in name (Just a few days earlier). But whether that is true or not the timing is too deliberate. And you didn't post anything, thus your first 8 posts were centered about me regardless.
The whole beauty contest thing that he was saying can't be true or else every contestent on EE would look like a model wouldn't they? .... you are speculating that the only reason they have the actual inventor present their invention is because of looks for TV ?
You are so quick to read into something the way you want to see it, that you misunderstood it the way you wanted to negatively misunderstand it. Show me where I said anything about a beauty contest....
No one wants anything to do with you.
Then what are you doing over here reading everything I say, and taking such great care and effort to respond?
by Envizion » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:18 pm
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Whazman -
This is the first thing that I have to agree with you on this thread. I have wasted WAY too much time on this subject.
I keep getting these notices of a response to this thread and I'm going to shut them off.
There is no winning with you Whazman. You have tunnel vision and it's just a waste of time.
I get upset when you say bad things about Roger and EE/EN because all they have done is try to help inventors and I really haven't seen any negative aspects at all.
You started this negative thread and that's what you got, negativity.
Nothing good can come out of it so I'm done.
Plus, it's like I'm fighting "air". I don't even know if you're a real person or a cartoon character. You sound like you are the one who is angry about something that happened between you and EE/EN and you are on a mission to make them look bad and no one can say otherwise.
I'm moving on to more positive subjects.
This is the first thing that I have to agree with you on this thread. I have wasted WAY too much time on this subject.
I keep getting these notices of a response to this thread and I'm going to shut them off.
There is no winning with you Whazman. You have tunnel vision and it's just a waste of time.
I get upset when you say bad things about Roger and EE/EN because all they have done is try to help inventors and I really haven't seen any negative aspects at all.
You started this negative thread and that's what you got, negativity.
Nothing good can come out of it so I'm done.
Plus, it's like I'm fighting "air". I don't even know if you're a real person or a cartoon character. You sound like you are the one who is angry about something that happened between you and EE/EN and you are on a mission to make them look bad and no one can say otherwise.
I'm moving on to more positive subjects.
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by Roger Brown » Thu Oct 16, 2008 2:01 pm
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Whamzam it appears you have not tal\ken the time to look at my website even though you criticize my inventions that are on the front page. If you had you would see that I have been writing for various major comic and humor publications for over 20 years.
As you stated I do spend about 5 hours or more a day on the computer. I read very fast and a number of the questions I get are of the same nature so they don't take long to respond too.
I don't need to fibb or hide about what I do or have done. I am having a great time inventing and talking with others about the topic (even you) : )
As you stated I do spend about 5 hours or more a day on the computer. I read very fast and a number of the questions I get are of the same nature so they don't take long to respond too.
I don't need to fibb or hide about what I do or have done. I am having a great time inventing and talking with others about the topic (even you) : )
Come visit my sites at http://www.RogerBrown.net
or http://www.looking2license.com
I have gotten 9 products licensed spending less than $100 on each, you can too.
or http://www.looking2license.com
I have gotten 9 products licensed spending less than $100 on each, you can too.
by Whamzam » Thu Oct 16, 2008 3:23 pm
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Whamzam wrote:
Of course, all of this may be just my opinion. But legitimate points that, sine nobody else seems to have challenged this machine, need to be surfaced.
Yea, that is exactly what I was trying to do. I saw all these comments about EN in all the other threads, that were posted by staff and members of EN. When other inventors come along and read ony partisan biased opinions of EN, it gives a one-sided view. They need to hear other perspectives to make an intelligent choice of various matters. They say that you should always get at least a second opinion. But if all the opinions are from the same machine, it is still just one opinion.
Many people like you took it the way it was supposed to be taken. There was only a few (3) that got all hot and bothered by it: (KelelKent, Patrice, and Roger).
Neutral people, and people who are opened to other viewpoints besides their own, and believe in the 1st ammendment were not offended.
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Whamzam wrote:
Of course, all of this may be just my opinion. But legitimate points that, sine nobody else seems to have challenged this machine, need to be surfaced.
I like what you said in your first post. I don't think there is anything perfect for all inventors. Some like this one, some like others better.
I just happen to like EN and feel its platform is very useful for me. Maybe someone else would like Davison or InventBay better.
Yea, that is exactly what I was trying to do. I saw all these comments about EN in all the other threads, that were posted by staff and members of EN. When other inventors come along and read ony partisan biased opinions of EN, it gives a one-sided view. They need to hear other perspectives to make an intelligent choice of various matters. They say that you should always get at least a second opinion. But if all the opinions are from the same machine, it is still just one opinion.
Many people like you took it the way it was supposed to be taken. There was only a few (3) that got all hot and bothered by it: (KelelKent, Patrice, and Roger).
Neutral people, and people who are opened to other viewpoints besides their own, and believe in the 1st ammendment were not offended.