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Who will you vote for?

McCain
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80%
Obama
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Total votes : 10

Who will you vote for?

Postby lcw_trey » Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:14 am

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lets see how they stack up in the forum.

Postby inventor-x » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:35 pm

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What about if someone wants vote Independent?

Postby lcw_trey » Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:46 am

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they might as well not vote, because thats all its good for :wink:

Postby Michelle » Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:02 am

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Absolutely fascinating article quantifying the type of bias and stats relating to bias in the media.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Re ... 71BBCBE0FF

A useful way of understanding the news media’s political and ideological makeup is to examine what the professionals in that field believe about a wide array of social, ethical, and political issues. Let us look at some of the major findings of the research exploring those beliefs:[1]

* Between 90 and 97 percent of news media professionals have consistently deemed themselves pro-choice on the matter of abortion. More than half of the respondents said that abortion should be legal under any and all circumstances, including the late-term procedure commonly known as Partial Birth Abortion, where the abortionist punctures a living baby’s skull and suctions out its brain before the infant’s head passes from the birth canal. Only 4 percent of journalists said abortion should be illegal in all circumstances.[2]
* Fully 81 percent of news media professionals favor affirmative action in business and academia.[3]
* More than half of respondents said that adultery could be acceptable under certain circumstances; only 15 percent said it was always wrong.[4]
* Between 67 and 76 percent were opposed to prayer being permitted in public schools.[5]
* Some 71 percent agreed that the “government should work to ensure that everyone has a job.â€

Postby bottleslingguy » Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:53 pm

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I already absentee voted for Ron Paul as a write in. I bet Obama will win though. Anyone telling me I wasted my vote can keep it to themselves. I don't think you should decide your vote as trying to be on the "winning team".

Postby lcw_trey » Sat Nov 01, 2008 1:14 pm

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i would have thought with the few thousand people signed up for the forum we could have gotten more than 4 votes for this. I am voting for McCain because he's not Obama. I don't agree with Obama's plan for saving the economy from the bottom up. Just look at the people at the bottom of the economy, drug addicts, high school drop outs, etc. How does he think giving money to these people is going to save the economy? And i'm a middle class american who would get tax cuts and maybe even money from his plan, but it will never work. Companies will cut jobs and some may leave the country to stop paying high taxes. just my 2 cents.

Postby Scrupulous » Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:18 pm

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I honestly don't see how anyone can have faith in our presidential voting system, given the controversy surrounding the last election, given the fact that electronic voting is entirely suspect, and given the presence of the electoral college as it is.

It would be nice to see a way where voting is made transparent, either by issuing voting receipts, or by way of physical congregation. This is just common sense...

As the American population grows, the less your vote counts. That's even if the overall result isn't corrupted. So, your vote counts less and less, as the years go by...

Please, don't pacify your sense of duty to your country by believing that your vote makes a difference. Don't trick yourself into thinking that the best you can do is cast a hidden ballot.

Instead, take your political views into your own hands. Make a difference to your immediate surroundings...to your own community. If all you do is vote, you mean almost nothing to your country, and it certainly does not make you a patriot.

Please, don't vote!

Postby Work2XL » Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:48 pm

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My voting method is going to be VERY simple. If your in office, I'm voting you out. My method is simple Republican over Democrat if Democrat is incumbent. Independent over Republican if Republican is incumbent. For president, I will hold my nose and pull for Mc Cain.
With a 12% approval rating for congress, I sincerely hope the rest of the population will do the same. Last I heard that is the same as Bush. If you hate him that much, how can you put your state rep back in office. If you lean democrat, then great do the same thing for a democratic candidate. Just make sure they are actually democrats not something else under a Democrat. One of my friends who is a liberal is voting for Mc Cain because "Hell, I think Mc Cain will make a great Democrat." He's right. Unless you are a one issue voter you have to concede the point.

The president is NOT the problem, it is CONGRESS. Let's get them OUT.



Randy

Postby lcw_trey » Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:30 am

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i agree about congress, however, here in MN Al Franken is the challenger. So there is no way i can support him.

Postby bottleslingguy » Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:09 pm

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Scrupulous wrote:It would be nice to see a way where voting is made transparent, either by issuing voting receipts, or by way of physical congregation. This is just common sense...

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Please, don't vote!


When I wrote in my choice for president and put the absentee ballot into the mailbox I figured that was the end of that and how silly I am to think someone will actually record my vote, I thought it would be nice to have a voting receipt so I could have other independent sources verify it.

I want to be able to see my name on a list of voters next to their choices. Not so I can attack them or anything. I know there's a constitutional law or something against that, but why not see if that fixes the problem? Totally transparent accountability. I'm not afraid of people knowing who I vote for, I think it's time we are all accounted for in the elections. Maybe that secrecy factor in voting is a remnant from the secret societies that started this country and is actually not a good way of running elections?
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