Scrupulous wrote:If he says that we are all eternal beings that have always been and will always be, then how would we be close becoming spiritual abortions, as he puts it?
That's what they kept asking him and he kind of danced around it. I don't know.
Scrupulous wrote:If we have always been at the mercy of these greater powers that be, then what would be the point of doing a darn thing, including repenting.
Repent is a bad word too much baggage comes with it. How about be aware of your shortcomings? Recognize the situations in which you could have been kinder or more helpful to someone in need. Remember all the times you were selfish. ( I'm aware of the "selfish" argument as being good) Most importantly you have to use those lessons of self awareness to build your spirit to a higher plane of evolution (whatever the hell that means), like what the guy talks about. I don't know how it all works, nobody does.
Scrupulous wrote: Would we be wrong to desire the destruction of these forces of control using whatever means necessary, including those that are considered 'sins'?
You mean like shoot first and ask questions second? I think the truth is waaay beyond that being an issue. Or maybe the urge to use violence is the issue?
Scrupulous wrote:As we know, passivism can rightly be considered a criminal behavior, since it requires collusion, and since it could not possibly lead to either justice or true balance. (A sound argument in favor of passivism doesn't exist.)
You know the "bad guys" have a sense of "justice" and "true balance" too who's yard stick are we using? The ones who don't want such a race as us weaponizing free space are probably not such bad guys after all. Them protecting themselves from us by not allowing us to advance is understandable. Sucks for us but it's understandable.
I'm taking a "wait and see" attitude. Nothing else I can do... Where's my copy of Siddhartha?
Ho-ho-hold on...let's stay focused here, my friend. There is no need to assume things are more mysterious than they appear. When we do that, the terrorists have won. Plus, it's bad ju-ju.
Now you and I (and indeed most people) agree that there is a dark force in control of our human world, which is not human. It would be a mistake to blame ourselves for the sh!t we see. Not only is it unfair to us, but there's much more evidence leading to the conclusion that the guilt lies in the hands of some greater power.
There's no point in wishing that some other force greater than us is gonna step in and help us out, because that other force is evidently not as strong as this dark force...either that or they are one and the same. These are simple truths. There's no reason to hope that things will naturally work out in the end, because you ARE nature. Nature will do exactly what YOU do.
So, to sit back and watch this happen is passivism
, which is a crime against your fellow human--a crime against humanity, if you must know. It's also kissing your sweet ass good-bye, in a very real sense. There's no way around it, BSG. We all have but one thing left to do.
I'm using you as the example, BSG, because we go way back, and because you would probably be a general in my army. It just amuses me how quickly people disengage when their duty starts to become clear.