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Postby eighthnote » Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:37 pm

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Hi I'm new here so please be patient. I have a guitar stand that i have a design patent on. Through the years i have received tons of mail from invention help companies. I have recently been talking to a company called, IDEA (INNOVATIVE DESIGN ENGINEERING ANIMATION) based in
San Francisco California. They also have a location in India. They are asking for $13,000 and they want half of that up front for CAD, industrial design and animation. This doesn't seem right to me but as I said I'm a rookie at this. Has anyone heard of this co. Also any suggestions about how to go about getting the right people to see my invention without costing an arm and leg would be greatly appreciated. My ultimate goal is to approach the right kind of manufacturers. I really do think I have a great product that will appeal to many. Thanks, Rick Payne

Postby makeworldbetter » Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:16 pm

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just read my another post couple days ago. I am not sure you should go with them.

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Postby makeworldbetter » Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:18 pm

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If that's the stand in your photo. I would use that money to buy some tool and material, and made them in my garage and sell them on ebay.

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Postby Ihomeinnovator » Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:02 pm

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eighthnote wrote:Hi I'm new here so please be patient. I have a guitar stand that i have a design patent on. Through the years i have received tons of mail from invention help companies. I have recently been talking to a company called, IDEA (INNOVATIVE DESIGN ENGINEERING ANIMATION) based in
San Francisco California. They also have a location in India. They are asking for $13,000 and they want half of that up front for CAD, industrial design and animation. This doesn't seem right to me but as I said I'm a rookie at this. Has anyone heard of this co. Also any suggestions about how to go about getting the right people to see my invention without costing an arm and leg would be greatly appreciated. My ultimate goal is to approach the right kind of manufacturers. I really do think I have a great product that will appeal to many. Thanks, Rick Payne


Can't say if they are trustworthy or not, but I can tell you that no company should require 6,500$ for Cad and animation startup. That is sheer blasphemy...I always raise a brow to companies that ask for two seperate payments and they total a siginificant sum off the bat.

Postby Chris_mech-eng » Fri Dec 26, 2008 6:28 pm

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I typically invoice a client for 30 days after completing each phase of the product design. If I do not know a client, I may ask for a percentage upfront.

As I have not seen your concept, I cannot comment on the cost of the CAD work. If it is very simple, the cost you were quoted maybe too high. However, A complex assembly that requires lots of surface modeling (aesthetics) will cost more than a simple functional concept. If this product requires motion analysis, FEA, rendering (for marketing), etc., expect to pay for those extra services. Solving the problem at the design phase is much less expensive than at the production phase.

If you are selling thousands of these product, it is less expensive overall to hire a good designer than to pay more later in development (rework, tooling costs, returns, etc.). A large design firm may charge considerably more than $13k. It costs us thousands of dollars a year for software and equipment maintenance.

What CAD software does this firm use? I use both SolidWorks and/or Pro/Engineer for 3-D CAD models, and this software is widely used at well known design firms. If you have a specific question, you can send me a message.